Tai nan xe lon den xe nho la tap tinh hay phap luat

Thứ năm, 17 Tháng mười một 2011, 15:12 GMT+7

Chang co luat nao bat nguoi di xe lon phai den nguoi di xe nho. Nhung phap luat cho phep cac ben lien quan tu thoa thuan den bu neu tai nan chua den muc khoi to hinh su.

Hom qua vua mua qua kinh lao, hom nay khai truong bang viec toet mat doc di doc lai hon 198 loi binh luan cho chu de loi cua luat su Huynh Van Nong Xem ra nhieu bac ""co doi chut nham lan"" giua tap tinh va qui pham phap luat trong van de giai quyet tai nan giao thong. Neu gap bac Lai Van Sam se bi tong co khoi ghe nong de khong anh huong toi thoi luong danh cho quang cao!

Xem xet loi gay ra va cham giao thong co ba truong hop: mot la do A gay ra, hoac B gay ra; hai la do A, B, ca hai cung co loi, nhung muc do vi pham khac nhau; ba la do khach quan ma ca A hoac B hoac ca hai cung gay ra.


Anh minh hoa
Anh minh hoa.

O truong hop 1 thi muoi muoi, ro nhu ban ngay, ai gay ra nguoi do phai chiu. Tinh huong 2, 3 moi gay tranh cai va thuong la cac phuong tien dat tien hon chiu thiet. Vi cac bac di xe o to, phuong tien dat tien deu khon nhu moi, khon nhu nong thon. Cac bac nay so rach viec, so cau luu phuong tien, so bi sach nhieu, so cai xay nay cai ung, so dem dai lam mong..., mang tieng ke nhieu tien hon, nen san sang ""chi phi"" cho xong chuyen.

Thuc chat phap luat qui dinh nhu the nao?

Toi xin trich dan Nguoi di bo gay tai nan giao thong: Phai xu ly binh dang dang tren bao Tuoi tre Online ngay 9/7/2010: ""De hieu dung ve van de nay chung ta can phai xem xet cac quy dinh phap luat co lien quan. Cu the, tai Bo luat dan su (BLDS) 2005 da co quy dinh ro. Theo dieu 604 BLDS ve nguyen tac chung thi trach nhiem boi thuong thiet hai chi phat sinh khi hoi du bon yeu to sau: phai co thiet hai xay ra, phai co hanh vi trai phap luat, co moi quan he nhan qua giua hanh vi trai phap luat va thiet hai da xay ra, co loi co y hoac vo y cua nguoi gay thiet hai.

Thong thuong trong mot vu tai nan giao thong hau qua xay ra co the la: thiet hai tinh mang, suc khoe, hu hong xe, tai san khac cung nhu cac thiet hai ve mat suc lao dong, thiet hai ve tinh than... Nhung thiet hai nay se do ben co loi chiu trach nhiem boi thuong (tru truong hop chu so huu xe phai boi thuong thay cho nguoi co loi). Neu cac ben deu co loi thi phai chiu boi thuong thiet hai theo ti le loi cua minh gay ra (dieu 617 BLDS)."

Ngay 2/2/2005, TS dang bai: Nguoi di bo gay tai nan giao thong: Phai xu ly binh dang trong do co doan viet "Cong an quan 1, TP HCM, da khoi to Ngo Thi My Yen, ve toi can tro giao thong duong bo. Trong luc bang qua duong tren cau Ong Lanh, Yen da va cham voi xe may do anh Pham Van Van dieu khien. Yen chi bi say sat nhe nhung anh Van bi nga xuong mat duong, chan thuong so nao va chet tren duong di cap cuu. Sau khi kham nghiem hien truong, canh sat giao thong khang dinh Yen da qua duong khong dung noi quy dinh. Ngo Thi My Yen bi tuyen phat 9 thang cai tao khong giam giu va phai boi thuong gia dinh nan nhan 7,5 trieu dong."

""Trao doi voi TS, ong Vo Van Van, Pho Phong canh sat giao thong, cong an TP HCM, khang dinh: "Nguoi di duong neu di dung phan quy dinh thi se duoc uu tien. Nguoc lai, khong di dung phan duong uu tien ma con gay tai nan nghiem trong thi tat nhien se bi truy to theo dung luat dinh". Luat su Phan Dang Thanh, Doan luat su TP HCM cung cho rang, luat da quy dinh hanh vi can tro giao thong phai duoc xu ly binh dang. Nguoi di bo gay can tro giao thong cung giong nhu cac phuong tien co gioi khac, phai bi xu ly nhu nhau. Nguoi di bo trai luat cung la nguon nguy hiem cao do, giong nhu bat cu phuong tien giao thong nao khac."

Nhu vay da ro! Chang co cong an, phap luat nao bat cac bac di xe lon cu phai den xe nho ca, ma do tap tinh cua cac bac va mot bo phan nguoi dan khong hieu biet phap luat ma thoi.

Phai noi them rang tai nan giao thong hay noi dung hon la va cham giao thong chua den muc khoi to hinh su thi viec hai ben tu thoa thuan den bu la thoa thuan dan su duoc phap luat chap nhan, mien khong vi pham cac dieu cam cua hien phap, phap luat. Phap luat khong can thiep. Ngoai tru thoa thuan do vi pham hoac mot trong hai ben hoac ca hai ben khieu nai va yeu cau co quan phap luat dung ra giai quyet, dieu tra, xac minh, giam dinh, trung cau, ket luan....Ma yeu cau co quan phap luat can thiep thi ""dai tap"" lam vi the ""a la danh"" cho do rach viec.

Vi vay tap tinh xe lon cu phai den xe nho co co hoi phat trien thanh tap quan.

Nguyen Phuc Tam

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Khong chi o VN ma ca nuoc ngoai cung vay

Xet cho cung luat phap nao ma chang co khe ho, ngay ca cac nuoc van minh nhat, cac nuoc co nen phap tri lau doi nhat cung co khe ho. Va co quan lap phap luon luon phai nghien cuu, dua ra nhung dieu luat bo xung hoac dieu chinh, sua doi cho phu hop voi thuc te...Vi vay luat su ho moi co dat song.

Khac voi o VN la nguoi dan binh thuong nao cung co the tim ra khe ho cua luat de roi lach luat, con o Tay chi co ban tay va khoi oc cua luat su, thong qua ho moi tim thay khe ho cua luat. Xet ve the che, luat phap hien hanh thi bai viet cua chu thot tren rat dung. Thu nhat chang co cai phap luat nao qui dinh xe to cu phai den xe be. Ma o day phai hieu rang xe to di dung.

Da la luat phap thi phai cong bang. Thu hai phap luat cung dua ra nhieu muc do, hanh vi dan su chu yeu dua tren giao keo, hop dong, thoa thuan... Khi da thoa thuan tuc la ca hai ben cung chap thuan, cung chap nhan. Va khong ai bat ep duoc ai. Neu ong di xe to bat ep bi den thi ong khong thoa thuan nua va ong co quyen yeu cau chinh quyen can thiep, tim ra dung sai, bao dam quyen loi hoac ong kien ( neu cho rang minh dung ). Neu ong bi de doa, bi dung vu luc va suc ep khac de buoc ong phai thoa thuan ngoai y muon la hanh vi trai phap luat. Muon chinh quyen can thiep thi ong danh phai mat thoi gian, cong suc va ca tien bac nua.

De xac minh duoc chan tuong cua vu viec, nguoi ta khong the cam tinh duoc ma phai theo nguyen tac, theo dinh che. Va nuoc nao du van minh den dau cung phai tuan theo dung qui trinh do. Khong chi o VN ma o ca nuoc ngoai, cong dan deu so bi tam giu phuong tien de cho dieu tra ket luan, vi vua mat thoi gian, vua bi dong khi bi giu phuong tien, vua lo bao quan phuong tien khong duoc chu dao, vua lo minh cung co loi cho du rat nho khong dang ke, nhung da la phap luat thi phai chi ra loi va cong bang.

Thu ba la xe to cu phai den xe be la viec ca nhan, chinh quyen khong can thiep vi day la do cac ong da thoa thuan nhe va cac ong khong kien nhau, neu kien toi ( chinh quyen ), khong de yen cho cac ong dau hoac cac ong vi pham vao cac dieu ma phap luat khong cho phep.

Tom lai xe lon o bat ke dau tren cai hanh tinh duoc cho la van minh nay deu phai chiu thiet. Muon khong bi thiet chi co di kien. Neu chung minh duoc minh dung thi ong xe lon se khong bi thiet ve mat cong bang xa hoi, nhung nhung thiet hai vo hinh la co. Vi vay tap quan xe lon cu phai den xe nho dang gam nham vao nen van minh nhan loai, biet ma chua co thuoc chua hieu qua. No phu thuoc nhieu vao dao duc, van hoa va van minh XH. Tiec rang VN cai do hoi bi hiem. Cam on tac gia Phuc Tam. Cac bai viet cua bac deu rat an tuong va sau sac.

Nguyen Khuong Ha | 21/11/2011

Dung la tap quan, nhung kho tranh

Chao cac bac,

Truoc het toi hieu dien dan la noi the hien tam tu tinh cam cua moi nguoi qua phuong tien thong tin dai chung duoi hinh thuc giao luu giai tri nhung co muc dich truoc het la gop phan dam bao an toan giao thong, rong hon la nang cao van hoa, tinh cong bang nghiem minh cua phap luat. Neu chi gop y chung chung khong thuc chat thi kho thuyet phuc duoc cong dong, con viec co ap dung quan diem vao thuc te hay khong thi can thoi gian voi su giam sat chat che cua phap luat. Nhu quan diem cua ban Ngo Dinh Loc thi chung ta chi dang tan gau a, phi thoi gian!, chac ban la nguoi Viet “goc …” thi moi noi nhu vay.

Xin tro lai cach nhin cua bac Tam:
1- Nhieu ban nham lan khi cho rang the che, phap luat bat den xanh cho viec xay ra tai nan hoac va cham la xe lon cu phai den xe nho. => Phap luat khong bat den xanh nhung thuc te xe lon (nguoi giau) thuong phai chiu thiet cho du ho dung, con nguoi bi nan xe nho thuong thiet hai ve phuong tien va than the duoc du luan va phap luat uu tien hon. Thiet nghi trong hoan canh con ngheo cua nguoi lao dong ho khong dung ve ly, nhu ve tinh thi “den vang vay”.

2- Dua ra dan chung rang phap luat cong bang voi tat ca cac loai hinh phuong tien khi gay ra tai nan/ va cham ke ca voi nguoi di bo gay tai nan. => Dan chung mot vai truong hop cong bang (truong hop diem) khong the dai dien cho thuc te qua nhieu truong hop xe to duoc khuyen “nen” den di cho yen than, cho thanh than.

3- Voi tai nan/va cham giao thong chua toi muc khoi to hinh su se uu tien cho thoa thuan dan su va duoc phap luat chap nhan mien sao thoa thuan do khong vi pham vao cac dieu cam. => Dung roi, cac truong hop vat vanh lam gi co du nguoi xu ly, tu giai quyet, nhung lai nhu tren neu xe nho la nguoi ngheo hon, phuong tien sinh song duy nhat la chiec xe may da hong tan tanh, the nao nhi ?, thoi lai den di cho lanh coi nhu viec thien, truong hop nay phap luat co nen ung ho?, hay bat buoc xe con den xe to?.

4- Vi dac tinh, tam ly cua nguoi di xe lon/ phuong tien dat tien co thoi quen "chi phi" de duoc an than va dac tinh tam ly nay da tro thanh tap tinh va rat co the da la tap quan. => Dung day la mot tap quan vua co tinh bat buoc, doi khi la tu nguyen. Nhung chi khi dieu kien kinh te van hoa cao len cung voi su chat che nghiem minh hon cua phap luat moi tu bo duoc tap quan nay.

Tom lai day la nhung thuc te nhieu khi rat khac voi quy dinh chat che trong luat. Nhung nhuoc diem la nhung dieu tuong nhu vat vanh, khong duoc xu ly nghiem se lam cho nhung nguoi chay au cang au hon. Vi vay cac bac chay xe to cu lieu ma di cho can than.

Thanh Binh | 21/11/2011

Khe ho cua Luat

Khe ho cua Luat la CS tam giu phuong tien de dieu tra. Tu do CS co co hoi nhung nhieu,va dan thi so hu hong phuong tien cua minh.Nen moi dan den chuyen xe lon phai den xe nho.Theo toi Cs chi lam cong viec lap bien ban, con ai dung ai sai la cong viec cua toa an.Cs khong duoc giu xe, moi viec se tro nen de dang hon.

Cung nhu viec CS phat giu bang lai vi vi pham Luat Giao thong, trong khi nguoi vi pham o dia phuong khac,roi hen 1 tuan sau den giai quyet. sao khong ghi giay phat,tai khoan kho bac,de nguoi vi pham chuyen tra. Con viec theo doi ,thu chi la cua Kho bac,hoac So Giao thong dia phuong do.CS het trach nhiem, se khong con chuyen keu ca Cs doi hoi lo.

nguyen phong luu | 20/11/2011

Cac bac ve nha ma "" khen"" nhau !

Ban Phuc Tam va Nguyen Thanh Tuan nhieu chu nghia qua! Cac bac thua thot khen nhau, nhung thuc chat la che nhau. Viec khen che ve nha hoac gui mail cho nhau ma khen che. Ngay ca viec "" khen "" ma ban Tam danh cho ban Tuan cung thay rat cham biem va day hai huoc. Cong nhan ban Tam xu ly tinh huong qua tot. Con ban Trinh Nguyen do them dau vao lua va dung ngoai nhin vo tay. Bac Nguyen cung rat tham.

Nguyen Khai | 19/11/2011

Tap quan xau cua nguoi Viet la hay binh luan linh tinh

Bai viet cua bac Phuc Tam co phai viet de dem ra ap dung dau ma thuc te voi khong ! No chi la mot cach nhin ve mot van de cua xa hoi. Hon nua cau ket luan cua bai viet coi no la tap quan dang hinh thanh trong XH. Mot so bac viet thi khong viet, dong gop thi khong dong, chi thich binh luan linh tinh. Va day moi la cai tap quan xau cua nguoi Viet can loai bo. Toi thich cach the hien ca bac Tam.

Ngo Dinh Loc | 19/11/2011

Bai viet hay nhung kho ap dung.

Toi rat thich bai viet cua bac Nhat Quang. Bai viet cua bac nay rat gan voi thuc te. Chi can dat vao hoan canh cac bac chi co mot con xe va ngay nao bac cung phai di lam cach xa hon 20km, thu hoi cac bac tu thuong luong de " duoc" den vai trieu ( du minh khong co loi) hay la chap nhan cung mang xe ve don de lam cho ra le. Luc do cac bac vua khong co xe cho cong viec va chac cung ton khong it cho viec tra tien luu bai cung nhu cac khoan khac de duoc lay xe ra. Vi vay luat bat thanh van " xe lon den xe be" van cu ton tai dai dai tru khi co su thay doi nao do ve viec thuc thi phap luat.

Vinh Thanh | 19/11/2011

Bai viet rat y nghia

Toi khong hieu can cu va dau ma Thanh Binh noi bai cua tac gia toan ly thuyet. The thuc te no khong dien ra vay sao. Thuc te khong dung la tai nan thi phai do duong, con va cham thi tu hai ben giai quyet. Phap luat lay dau ra ma lam nguoi de giai quyet dam ba cai vat vanh the. Ma muon hai ben thoa thuan thi phai dua vao phap luat, vao nen tang van hoa va dao duc. Le ra van minh phai la nhu vay. Dang nay o minh ong di xe lon cung lam tat, ba di xe nho cung lam nhot. Thoa thuan voi nhau bang luat rung.

Toi chung kien nhieu vu, chang biet dung sai, dau cua tai nheo the nao, ong xe lon nhu xe bus va cham, nhay xuong ca lai va phu danh anh di xe may. Xe tai ben, ca lai phu nhay xuong danh nguoi di xe dap. Xe o to con, lay tuyt sat phang vao dau nguoi di xe may...Nhung co nhung luc nguoi di xe may cung phang vao nguoi lai o to. Lung tung beng lam. Phap luat chua nghiem thi dung roi. Nhung nen tang dao duc va van hoa ung xu qua thap moi la dieu dang che trach. Hai ben khong ai chiu nhuong ai thi phai nho den phap luat de bao ve quyen loi. Muon phap luat bao ve thi phai tuan thu nguyen tac va qui trinh xu ly phai co trinh tu khong the nao nhanh duoc.

Neu khi xac dinh nguoi lai phuong tien khong co loi gay ra tai nan thi phai tra ngay phuong tien cho nguoi lai xe hoac chu xe. Day la qui dinh cua phap luat tai thong tu so 35/2009/TTLT-BTC-BCA. Bai viet cua tac gia Phuc Tam rat bai ban, chat che, luon duoc danh gia co chat luong cao. Cam on tac gia.

Pham Hoang Phuong | 19/11/2011

@ Thanh Binh

Chao Thanh Binh ! Toi viet bai nay co may y nhu sau :

1- Nhieu ban nham lan khi cho rang the che, phap luat bat den xanh cho viec xay ra tai nan hoac va cham la xe lon cu phai den xe nho.

2- Dua ra dan chung rang phap luat cong bang voi tat ca cac loai hinh phuong tien khi gay ra tai nan/ va cham ke ca voi nguoi di bo gay tai nan.

3- Voi tai nan/va cham giao thong chua toi muc khoi to hinh su se uu tien cho thoa thuan dan su va duoc phap luat chap nhan mien sao thoa thuan do khong vi pham vao cac dieu cam.

4- Vi dac tinh, tam ly cua nguoi di xe lon/ phuong tien dat tien co thoi quen "chi phi" de duoc an than va dac tinh tam ly nay da tro thanh tap tinh va rat co the da la tap quan.

5- Rat nhieu nguoi ngo nhan viec minh dung hay sai trong truong hop xay ra tai nan gaio thong, nhat la truong hop hai va ba nhu da trinh bay o trong bai. De hieu ro hon toi vi du: xe may di nguoc chieu vao duong o to, tai nan xay ra, ai dung ai sai? Duong nhien xe may sai.

Neu o to di trong pho toc do duoi 50km/h, dung phan duong qui dinh, he thong an toan va van hanh con hoat dong tot, nguoi lai xe khong su dung chat kich thich, con tinh tao, truoc khi xay ra tai nan co canh bao bang den coi, co vet phanh du dai truoc khi hai xe va cham thi rat nhieu kha nang lai xe khong co loi. Neu hien truong khong co vet phanh, hoac vet phanh qua ngan thi chac chan nguoi lai o to co loi thieu quan sat dan den bat ngo khong xu ly kip.

Neu xe lop mon, den coi khong hoat dong, he thong an toan va van hanh co loi, ngu gat, co men, di khong dung phan duong du hoi chech vai chuc cm thi duong nhien lai xe o to cung co loi. Va de xac dinh loi nay CS dieu tra phai do dac hien truong, phai giam dinh nguoi va phuong tien, phai tim nguoi lam chung, phai mo phong tren sa hinh, tren may tinh, phai trung cau ky thuat..... Roi moi ra quyet dinh. Tom lai day la thu tuc bat buoc ma tat ca cac nuoc van minh deu phai lam. Nguoi dan khong hieu biet cu tuong Cong An lam choe! Thong tu lien tich bo tai chinh, cong an so 35/2009/TTLT-BTC-BCA co dieu 1.6 noi ve qui dinh tra lai phuong tien tai nan khi xac dinh khong co loi, chi tiet cac ban tham khao them.

Vai dieu voi Thanh Binh nhu vay.

Nguyen Phuc Tam | 19/11/2011

Bac Phuc Tam ve nhi roi!

Nhan ra giong van va loi hanh van tuong la roi ram va ""ngua ngay"" nhung phai theo kieu ""an mia"" thi moi da thi Bac Tam ve nhi roi. Em moi la nhat phai khong tien sinh Nguyen Thanh Tuan?

Trinh Xuan Nguyen | 18/11/2011

Cung tham gia giao thong can co su an toan – chia se va cong bang!

Khi cung tham gia giao thong viec va cham la dieu kho tranh khoi, va cham nhe khong noi lam gi nhung va cham xay ra den muc thiet hai den ‘’ da day’’ den ‘’ mang song’’ doi khi kho tranh khoi viec vung tay vung chan cung voi man chem gio cua cac ‘’ co dong vien’’ va cuoi cung la cac ‘’ can thiep ‘’ cua nha chuc trach. Khi tham gia giao thong yeu to ngan ngua va cham duoc dat nen hang dau. De co su ngan ngua tot theo toi can nhieu yeu to nhung yeu to: ky thuat - can than - quyet doan xem ra la quan trong hon ca:

i. Ky thuat: dieu nay duong nhien moi nguoi tham gia giao thong nhat la dieu khien cac phuong tien deu it nhieu co nhung kien thuc ky thuat co ban. Su thanh thuc cua moi nguoi la khac nhau phu thuoc vao kha nang, su chuyen can va hoc hoi doi khi con ca tinh trang tam sinh ly, suc khoe. Ky thuat o day bao ham ca viec ung xu trong cac tinh huong vuot xe, nhuong duong, hay viec dung do. Chi can mot cai vay tay ‘’ anh di truoc di’’ hay mot cai gio tay ‘’ xin loi minh hoi au’’ hay ngay sau khi nghe tieng ‘’ huych’’ dung xe tai cho lam mot vong quanh xe ‘’ ok khong van de gi di thoi’’ hay dung do khong gay can tro hay su kho chiu cho nguoi tham gia....vv.

ii. Can than: da tham gia giao thong viec can than trong viec su dung phuong tien la dieu kien can. Dieu nay dong nghia voi viec tim hieu cu the phuong tien, hanh trinh minh se di, van hoa giao thong o vung mien do: duong la cua chung nhung em cu di nhu cua nha em day, mot con ga mai bac kep chet la ca nam nay nha em khong co trung an day nhe, xe dep chac nhieu tien day, tu tram bon anh xuong day ca may chuc cay chu xu hoa roi chu cho bon anh binh xang nhe PaJero co gan tram lit mot binh em chet...vv. Nhieu chu phuong tien vi y lai xe moi mua bao hiem vat chat muc cao nhat lai con hang ngon nhat dich vu ok nhat nen co phan nao mat di tinh can than. Can than o day xin duoc de cap ca them den viec xu ly cac tinh huong co nguy co xay ra xung dot do la quan sat, la thuc hien dung du cac dieu kien ky thuat cua phuong tien va dieu kien giao thong thuc te. Can than den ca viec suy tinh den viec ‘’bam may’’ alo cau cuu vien binh hay cac su can thiep khac....vv

iii. Quyet doan: trong moi tinh huong can co su quyet toan tu viec xu ly cac tinh huong nhuong duong, vuot xe hay dung do. Su quyet doan con the hien ngay sau khi xay ra va cham. Xac dinh ro viec dam bao an toan cho minh va tai san mang theo tren xe truoc khi roi ra khoi xe bang viec mang theo nguoi, len het kinh va chot cua. Khi xay ra va cham co ai cung hieu la loi thuoc ve minh hay doi phuong.

Vi vay:

- Neu loi la do minh nhanh chong thuong thao de thoi gian hoa giai la ngan nhat, it co tac dong cua ‘’ co dong vien hay nha chuc trach’’ nhat va muc den bu la hop ly nhat. Vua giai toa minh vua khong can tro giao thong.

- Neu loi do doi phuong gay ra: Truong hop xe co bao hiem vat chat (BHVC) toan bo thi cung nen cu xu o muc do chia xe nhung van phai ran de de doi phuong rut kinh nghiem. Truong hop k co BHVC thi ket luan cua ga ra nen chang la ‘’ cau tra loi cuoi cung’’.

- Neu do ca hai: tat ca hay dat len ban va cung bat tay giai quyet sao cho anh khong thiet va toi khong hai la tot nhat. Theo toi viec can den su can thiep cua nha chuc trach la khi su viec da het suc nghiem trong roi ma thuc su ‘’neu dieu ay xay ra ca hai ta cung kho’’ nhu ban Nguyen Son Trung da noi :’’ Tu lo thoi’’.

Vi vay, moi chung ta nen chang: ‘’Cung tham gia giao thong can co su an toan – chia se va cong bang’’!

Cam on tac gia Phuc Tam cung toan the dien dan.

Trinh Xuan Nguyen | 18/11/2011

Thieu thuc te, nhan dinh chua chinh xac

Bac Tam la mot cuu gia cua chuyen muc da dong gop rat nhieu y kien tu van va khoi xuong nhieu chu de hay, kien thuc phap luat cua bac Tam la kha day du, thuc su phai noi loi cam on bac Tam da gop phan lam soi noi hao hung tranh luan trong chuyen muc!!!, tuy nhien co le tinh sach vo da lam anh huong den kha nang chap nhan thuc te, hoac vi ly do nghe nghiep bac Tam co tinh lang tranh thuc te.

Bai viet cua bac chu thot dai nhung tom lai chu y muon noi la: Viec xe lon thuong phai den xe nho la loi cua chu xe, la do tap quan chu khong phai do loi cua phap luat. Nghe qua co ve dung nhung thuc ra khong chinh xac. Phap luat da lam ra thuong phai dung (co the moi la luat phap), neu co chi la chua hoan thien can phai bo xung chinh sua theo thoi gian va thuc te van hanh. Ve chu de “xe lon thuong phai den xe nho trong va cham giao thong”, loi sau xa phai noi la “Luat phap khong nghiem” (nhu y kien cua Nguyen Quang, Nhat Quang...) va nguoi thuc thi luat phap “thieu trach nhiem” lam cho “luat phap kem hieu luc” neu dien ra dai dai theo thoi gian thi dan den gan nhu khong co phap luat. Chinh dieu nay moi lam nay sinh tap quan xau, khong ai tu dung muon nhu vay.

Viec xac dinh chinh xac loi trong cac tai nan giao thong nhieu khi kho chinh xac, doi khi hien truong bi thay doi, khong co nhan chung..., thuong thi cac vu tai nan giao thong nghiem trong chet nguoi thi buoc phai lam ro, con cac truong hop khac tu giai quyet, neu CSGT vao cuoc thi ca hai ben deu ton thoi gian, tien bac...ma chua chac da thoa dang, con neu mot ben la nguoi nha, than quen... voi CSGT thi sao?, hien truong vu tai nan co the bi lam sai lech !, chung ta hay nho vu dua xe o to tren duong Lang Hoa lac ngay 19/11/2001 (cach day dung 10 nam) gay ra cai chet cua 2 nu sinh, nguoi lai la Quan (la con trai cua 1 trung ta CSGT) nhieu tinh tiet cua vu an da bi sai lech.

Chung ta la nhung nguoi hang ngay tham gia giao thong va deu mong muon dieu tot dep, neu chang may va cham neu ai co loi nen nhan trach nhiem ve minh dong gop den bu thiet hai cho nguoi bi nan. Dong gop y kien tren dien dan nay cung voi mong muon nhu vay: su cong bang. Cac y kien xuat phat tu thuc te cua nhieu ban that su co gia tri, con neu nhan dinh thieu tinh thuc te nhu bac Tam de dan den danh gia tuy “dung” nhung chua “trung” va lam lech huong thao luan hien tuong “xe lon thuong phai den xe nho trong va cham giao thong”.

Chuc vui ve, an toan.

Thanh Binh | 18/11/2011

@ Thanh Tuan va Love Santa Fe

@ Thanh Tuan, ban lam toi bat dau nghien loi tu duy va cach hanh van cua ban roi day. Khi vao muc doc gia tra loi, toi co thoi quen lan chuot xem co ten Nguyen Thanh Tuan ? Co la toi nhap vao ngay, khong co la thay nho ! Ban co bo he- ro-in hay bua me thuoc lu gi khong day? :-) . Thu thuc, truoc kia doc van cua ban toi thay roi ram, dai dong, lan man, quanh co, khuc khuyu...dua nguoi doc chim sau trong giac ngu.

Nhung nay da doc nhieu, da quen voi loi tu duy cua ban, toi ngo ra rang ban la nguoi phuc tap, hieu sau, rong, bao la, bat ngat, rat thang than, rat ca tinh va khong kem phan hom hinh. Toi khuyen cac ban doc bai cua Tuan hay doc mot cach diem dam, tu tu va phai lao dong nhu an trai buoi. Dau tien, got lop vo xanh theo duong xoan tron oc, roi boc cui, tach mui, boc lop vo ben trong cho lo tep, xong moi an va khong quen nhe hat.

Khi vitaminC tu trai buoi tham thau qua thanh ruot, luc day moi la thuong thuc, moi thay cai hay ho ma Nguyen Thanh Tuan co dong. Thuc su kinh ne Tuan va cam on ban da cho chung toi thuong thuc. Tuy nhien, nhung cay mui va ngua mieng cua ban toi da giai quyet trong topic cua minh roi, ( thuc ra moi chi la comment ) neu ban doc ky.

@ Love Santa Fe, cam on ban quan tam. So voi ong Banh To, toi van con xi tin lam. Tren nay moi nguoi cu goi nhau bang bac, xung em, hoac tren otofun cu goi nhau bang Cu...., van hoa rat la ! Van de ban hoi toi, cho phep khat , ke ra thi no dai tap lam, de dip khac vay. Ban thong cam nhe.

Nguyen Phuc Tam | 18/11/2011

Chu de va noi dung deu hay !

Ban Phuc Tam duoc trang bi tan rang boi cac quy dinh cua phap luat, cung nhu y kien ung ho cua cac chuyen gia phap ly hang dau cua nuoc nha, va cua Nguoi nha nuoc co tham quyen, cung cac tu lieu duoc chon loc rat ky cang. Minh phai thua nhan ca de tai lan bai nay deu hay lam co ! Minh nga mu (moi mua) de chao ky nang "search" va su dung thong tin cua ban y. Kho "cay mieng" luat su lam day nhe, vi nguoi ta bao ho la nhung nguoi theo phuong cham "No pay, no... talk - Khong tra tien, khong...bao !" do ma.

Mac du vay, minh van thay... cay mui va ngua mieng voi bai nay, nen danh phai thu "vong an" voi Phuc Tam mot ban xem sao (du sao cung cam on ban y da lay than che mua "da" nem len doan tau cua minh bua truoc, nhe !)

Noi gi thi noi, luat phap van kho di truoc thuc trang phat trien kinh te- van hoa va xa hoi. O nuoc ta hien nay, “xe nhon” van phai nhuong cac em xe nho, vi nhieu ly do khach quan.

Hay thu tuong tuong xem, neu “em” Lexus xinh tuoi nhu mong cua ban dang bon bon… thi “duoc” mot trang hao han, mat bam ra sua, quan dui, coi tran trung truc, dang “bay” tren mot chiec hai banh gan may nhan hieu “da quoc gia” (cac phan khac nhau cua no duoc che tao tu nhieu quoc gia khac nhau, nhu Nhat, Han, Trung quoc, Thai va ca o … Cho lon nua), sau xe co chiec “phooc-ba ga” rong bang khoang mot nua cai ban an cho 6 nguoi, cho mot kien hang to bang nua chiec o to tai 2 tan, lan trai, lao vao ban tu phia truoc, lam nat hau het mot nua “dien hoa da phan” ben trai cua “nang Lexus” cua ban, dong thoi “kien hang” bi do xoa ra duong, “loi” ra khoang 50 chiec vo chai bia rong, vo tung toe tren duong, trong khi tay “tai nang tre cua xa lo” cung te song xoai, mot trong hai “chi sau” cua ban y bi mot chiec hai banh, hay bon banh tinh co dieu ngang can phai…mau ra lenh lang, va ban y bat dau khoc than cho chiec xe “lien hiep quoc”, va dong vo chai bia cua “chu hang", roi kien quyet doi ban boi thuong… (tam thi du nhu du vay da nhe!).

Nguoi nha nuoc den kip thoi, lap hoac khong lap bien ban, tuy thuoc tinh hinh cu the. Neu hai ben duong su khong the thuong luong, va neu vi “anh hung khong mac ao” doa doi ban dua ban y vao benh vien, dam dong roi viec lai vay quanh ngay mot dong, mot bien xe hoi, xe may bam coi inh oi de dep duong, tao thanh mot “cuc bu” la hon hop cua da thit, sat thep va khoi bui un tac tai hien truong, trong khi ban lai khang khang voi lap truong “I am innocent- Toi vo toi !” va doi Nguoi nha nuoc phai tien hanh ngay va day du thu tuc xu ly tai nan de ban con co co so giai trinh voi “vo ca”, hay voi “ong bao hiem”, ve tinh trang thuong tat cua “vo hai/chong hai” cua ban. Trong tinh huong do, toi chac 100% rang Nguoi nha nuoc se buoc phai “moi” nang Lexus xinh tuoi nhung meo (mop) mat cua ban ve “kho tang vat”, cho ...thoang duong.

“Ban gai” minh chua duoc “ve kho” lan nao, nhung theo nhu minh nghe nguoi ta noi thi o do kinh khung lam, nao la phoi suong, phoi nang; chuot, dan day dan; nao la “ngo nho” lan da min mang cua “chong/vo hai” cua ban bi nhan nheo, tray xuoc; roi “ngo nho” toc “tai” (guong chieu hau), mat mui (den va mat na, logo), hay dau oc xoc xech, hay tham chi cung “ngo nho” ca luc phu, ngu tang cua “nguoi dep Lexus” cung doi chu… thi ban tinh sao day ? Xot lam la phai chu a ?!

The, bay gio chung minh quay nguoc “cuon bang” ve cho ban dang khang khang “Toi vo toi !” o giua giao lo dang ket cung voi coi xe dinh tai nhuc oc va du loai tieng chui rua nham vao “bon co tien (xe bon banh)”, dong thoi ban cung duoc cho mot co co hoi vang de sua chua doan ket kinh di vua roi cua cuon bang noi tren, thi ban se lam gi nao ? Ban co chac la ban van se noi “I am innocent !” chu ? Hay la ban se phai can rang, den… dut tung khuc ruot (trong truong hop nay rang co the “can toi” ruot day !), ma moc cai vat dem dep, bang da hoac trong giong da, o tui sau, neu ban la “chong cua nang” (xin loi nua kia cua the gioi, minh nghi la minh khong nen noi den cai “ket” di dong bang da hay giong da cua phai cac ban), de “moi” ra mot so luong nhat dinh cac to tien giay, de roi “tong dat”chung cho vi “nhan tai tre cua xa lo” cho xong, de con “dua nang cua ban ve phong kham chuyen khoa tham ny voi lai chinh hinh”. Het phim !

Cu Nam Cao thanh that ! Co phai trong moi cuoc thao luan ve nhan tinh the thai giua ong Ba Kien voi “anh Chi”, thi luc nao quan diem voi lai la phieu bieu quyet cua “Ong Ba” cung deu duoc uu tien dau, nhi !?

Tai but: Minh e la bai cua minh co nguy co lam mot bo phan cua cong chung di bo va di “hai banh” co the se noi gian dung dung, quay ra “dau tranh giai cap” voi minh, ke “minh minh, ban ban “ voi cai bon nha giau di bon banh, roi lai quang” da hoc” len tau cua minh… Thoi minh thi noi the nay: Minh di ca hai banh lan bon banh, nhung hai banh nhieu hon, vi… thieu tien do xang, dung “nem” nha !

Cheers,

Nguyen Thanh Tuan | 18/11/2011

Phai thay doi qui trinh xu ly truoc

Hien nay nhieu nuoc tren the gioi ho phat cac vi pham nho nhu vuot den do, qua toc do... bang hinh anh, chang phai thu giu hay lap bien ban gi nen xa hoi vua nhan vua ky cuong va chung ta cung dang tiep can "cong nghe nay". Xet cho cung tai nan xay ra do nguoi la chu yeu chu phuong tien chang toi tinh gi, vay thi tai sao cu phai giam giu phuong tien vo toi va cung theo do ma hanh chu nhan cua chung du la ho co loi hay khong.

Voi cac tai nan ma luat cho thoa thuan nhu tac gia noi thi cu thu giay to quan trong roi cho phuong tien di sau khi da do ve, lap bien ban. Viec su ly, ket luan dung sai se lam nhu bay gio va theo do vi khong nam trong tay su giam giu phuong tien nen nguoi su ly cu theo luat ma lam, kho ma gay kho de, hach sach chu phuong tien roi moi tha xe nhu hien nay. Co nhu vay thi moi tao duoc chuyen bien trong cach nghi cach lam cua co quan chuc nang va nguoi tham gia giao thong.

Steve Phan | 18/11/2011

The nao la tai gia?

Sang hom qua doc qua muc nay thay tua bai minh co linh cam la bai cua bac Tam roi, that dung khi keo xuong cuoi bai de xem ten tac gia la ai. O thi ra la "thanh vien gia". Xin phep hoi bac Tam ngay truoc cong tac trong nghanh nao? Gio hiu roi thi co lam kinh te gi them ben ngoai khong vay bac? Doc bai cua nguoi ve huu co khac, vi gung cang gia cang cay. Thay bac vinh tui nen chau cung thich vui tinh theo. Chuc bac nhieu suc khoe va cho nhieu bai viet hay... A.. a...a bac oi nhan tien day du rang bac chua tra loi la truoc day bac cong tac nghanh gi nhung neu la NGHANH GIAO DUC thi cho chau kinh chuc Thay nhieu suc khoe, song lau, co that nhieu chau noi, ngoai xinh - ngoan, may man trong cong viec hien tai va mai mai. (hom qua chau da viet bai nhung khong thay dang len, chac loi ky thuat ti xiu).

Love Santa Fe | 18/11/2011

Tu lo thoi.

Bao hiem cung nhieu khe khong kem gi cong an. Khi tai nan hoac va quet xay ra, muon duoc bao hiem lo, nguoi tham gia dich vu bao hiem phai goi duong day nong hoac cho nhan vien bao hiem... Voi o to co vet xuoc nho thi ho ghi nhan, chac cung khong den muc phien nhieu gi. Neu to hon mot chut ho phai den hien truong, cung phai lay nhan chung, roi dua vao ket luan cua cong an..... rat phuc tap. Tot nhat la tu lo, khong lo duoc moi can cong an, bao hiem.

Nguyen Son Trung | 18/11/2011

Bai viet hay

Toi doc bai cua Nguyen Phuc Tan thay het suc chinh xac, o Viet Nam hay bat cu nuoc nao cung vay, khong co chuyen xe lon phai den cho xe nho. O Viet Nam khi tai nan xay ra theo quy trinh giai quyet tai nan giao thong thuong uu tien cho viec tu thoa thuan, neu va cham nhe va hai ben tu thoa thuan duoc voi nhau thi cong an se de hai ben tu thoa thuan.

Truong hop tai nan xay ra nghiem trong hoac hai ben khong tu thoa thuan duoc thi cong an giai quyet. Trong thuc te cung co nhieu truong hop nguoi di dung cho tien nguoi di sai vi thay nguoi do bi thuong nang, gia dinh kho khan.... Nhung do la tu nguyen cong an khong bat buoc, ngoai ra con co nhung nguyen nhan nhu anh Tam da neu.

Nguyen Hung Minh | 18/11/2011

Ly thuyet va thuc te

Thuc te thi sao? Gia su mot chu di xe may tat dau o to. Roi ... ram ... xoe. Chu di xe may bi hong xe va nguoi bi xay xat (cu tinh muc nhe nhe the thoi). Roi sao? Tat nhien la chu xe may lan ra bat den roi. Vay thi khong duoc roi, anh tat dau xe toi co ma, anh sai sao toi lai phai den cho anh, de toi goi CSGT.

May qua may chu CSGT den roi. Tiep theo la "dua ca 2 xe vao day roi 2 ben tu thuong luong voi nhau, neu khong thi giu ca 2 xe roi ha hoi phan giai". Bac co thac mac la bac di dung u? Do la bac tu noi the thoi, chung toi lam viec can co nhan chung, vat chung, co kham nghiem hien truong (vu nay mat thoi gian nhe). Ma cu cho hien truong dung nhu bac noi thi bac cung cu pham loi nhu thuong. Loi cua bac la gi? La thieu quan sat, la khong lam chu toc do ... vv.

Noi them ve vu loi thieu quan sat cho bac ro nhe. Gia su bac dang di tren duong co giai phan cach dang hoang. Tu nhien mot chu di bo nhay qua giai phan cach de sang duong vao ngay dau xe bac. Ho tat nhien co loi roi. Nhung bac cung khong tranh khoi toi thieu quan sat. Vi sao vay? Vi neu bac quan sat can than thi bac "phai" phat hien ra co chu kia dinh nhay qua duong, chu do khong phai tren troi roi xuong vao dau xe cua bac.

Bac cung khong lam chu toc do, vi neu co thi bac da kip phanh lai duoc roi (ly cua chu CSGT la vay bac cai duoc khong? Vay nen cai ly xe lon den xe be, nguoi dang hoang phai den ke cu nhay co co hoi de tro thanh tap quan nhu bac noi la co su ho tro cua luat long leo va nguoi thuc thi luat do bac a. Chi so bac khong muon thuong luong cung khong xong vay nen ..... den thoi bac.

Nhat Quang | 17/11/2011

Dung roi!

Dung la phap luat quy dinh nhu vay. Nhung thu hoi co bao nhieu nguoi di xe may chiu hieu nhu vay? Them may an xe om, ba ban banh minh ben duong va vo xo nhung nguoi dung chung quanh ay de an thoi co ai nghi den luat nay khong? Hay bon ho chi thay xe hoi dung xe lon la bu vao dao tien, dao danh,... Thu hoi trong truong hop do ai ma khong phai bo tien ra de cho yen truyen. Vi vay, moi nguoi can cam tam hon trong viec danh gia hanh vi cua nhung nguoi dieu khien phuong tien giao thong gay va cham voi nhau de moi chuyen cong bang hon.

Binh | 17/11/2011

Luat phap khong nghiem

Bac nay noi la. The nao la khoi to? Duong Truong Chinh-Ha Noi xe may di nguoc chieu hang dan, CSGT chi cach do may chuc met, lo dam vao ho thi ban se bi quy toi "khong lam chu toc do". . ., khong kheo nang thi bi khoi to! Haha, "lam chu" sao duoc khi bong dung hang dan xe may bong dung lao vao dau xe ban mac du ban di dung phan duong cua minh!

Duong Nghi Tam, ngay nao cung vay, mac du da co bien cam re trai nhieu cho nhung thanh le, xe van phi am am va tac duong lai dien ra. Sao ho cham bat nguoi khong doi mu bao hiem the ma khong bat tuong hop nay? Suy cho cung cung do thuc thi luat phap khong nghiem nen ... " nao chung ta cung nhon"!

Nguyen Quang | 17/11/2011



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